So when one netizen asked fellow movie lovers, “What movie had a 10/10 concept and a 3/10 execution?”, lots of people had their one poorly-executed movie pick. Whether it was a lacking storyline, not enough chemistry between the actors, or something less tangible that’s even hard to put into words, people didn’t hesitate to share them. Bored Panda decided to reach out to some experts on bad movies – the team behind the podcast The Flop House. It’s a comedy podcast about bad movies, now entering its 17th year. The people behind the mics are comedian and screenwriter Dan McCoy, writer and comedian Elliott Kalan (both former writers for The Daily Show with Jon Stewart), and podcaster Stuart Wellington. We asked them what makes a great movie concept and why sometimes filmmakers fail to deliver on its execution. The trio also shared their favorite “good concept but bad execution” movies. If you like their takes, be sure to check out their podcast or tune into their streaming event on April 27th, where they’ll discuss the legendary bomb Speed 2. More info: The Flop House | Streaming Event | Twitter | YouTube | Instagram
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“Those themes don’t have to be huge or overt, but if it doesn’t have that core, you’re in trouble. Some terrible movies have been made from fine premises, but they fail because you walk out saying, ‘Yeah, I know the plot – but what was it about?’”
The podcasters point out that when it seems like a movie has a great concept but doesn’t execute it well, it’s probably because something went wrong along the line. “Sometimes, it’s a ’too many cooks in the kitchen’ situation,” they give an example.
“Film is highly collaborative, and at its best, that means you get something more impressive than any one person could create, but if the people in charge aren’t all on the same page, then there’s no sense there was an overriding vision.”
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Can this be a genre problem? Just one glance at this list proves that fantasy and sci-fi may flop more often in the eyes of the audience than other genres. “Some genres become difficult through overfamiliarity,” The Flop House hosts admit. “It’s hard to do a giant fantasy epic that breaks new ground because post-Star Wars, everyone got obsessed with the same screenwriting models, and the stories started feeling the same.”
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“Some genres get harder, just as they seem to be getting easier,” The Flop House team says. “Action is less thrilling now that special effects can do literally anything because it loses any sense of reality that an audience can connect to.” However, they do say that it’s likely that no genre is inherently more difficult. “They all just have different challenges.”
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A film historian and filmmaker Wheeler Winston Dixon, a professor at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln, told CNN that there is a great deal of things that can go wrong for filmmakers. “It’s always a crapshoot because there are so many factors you don’t know about before you’re going into something. Even with all the elements in place, there’s always an element of chance.”
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“I look at it this way – a concept is the promise you make, but the story is how you deliver on that promise, or a concept is something that asks a question, and the answer to the question is your story,” he writes.
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Interestingly, the original idea Affleck and Damon pitched was about a mathematics genius pursued by the government. But, after reading the draft, filmmaker Rob Reiner told them to get rid of that plotline and focus on the characters.
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